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experience from the beginning

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is

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so

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there are more yes I have this feeling

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of love in my smaller place it wakes me

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up in the milk or whatever and he had to

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cross some other

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um lands to get to his so he said all of

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a sudden

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daylight like daylight and he said uh

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see

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which time was like the most

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like

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um beautiful or the most

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wow you know oh that's a special one you

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foreign

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uh it was going that way and he said and

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the upper part was golden and and the

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and what did you think when you saw that

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where do you think it came from

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this game

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they've all been exciting they've all

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been excited

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when we visited the group of salt in

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their Camp up there in the mountains

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suddenly a bright very intense life

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one of the researchers saw it a bride

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orange colored light

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it was moving up and down very fast like

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the light of an EKG

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after a short while another even more

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intense light appeared over the mountain

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it was orange colored and it slowly came

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foreign

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studio so you see

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foreign

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very important

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for as Witnesses for the quality and

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truthfulness and sincerity and

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genuineness of their father as a human

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being

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and that is very powerful

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testimony in other words you you be

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you're with those boys

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and you cannot believe and you see their

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relationship to their father and you

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cannot believe that

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they are children of a man who is a

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dissimulator for several days Professor

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Meg carefully interviewed Carlos Diaz

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his wife Margarita his two sons Carlito

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and Alejandro and dozens of citizens of

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tepotslan before he came to an

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assessment of the case it seems like a

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caring sincere Family Man and uh

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not somebody given to lying distorting

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fraudulent Behavior this kind of thing

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it seems almost Unthinkable having

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gotten to know him as well as we have in

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these days that that he would be capable

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of that having spent

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really two and a half days with him and

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his family I think he's a credible

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witness he calls himself a witness and

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he doesn't like to be called a contactee

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or abductee

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he's a witness and he's a credible

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witness I haven't found anything about

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him that would lead one to believe that

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make up a story or

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uh

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doctor

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photographs or tapes he's uh

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he appears to

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um

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visionary experiencer

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he has with all the unusual material he

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has he's profited little from it if

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anything he's been

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creative material in the

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belief rather naive belief that uh

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if he just shares his truth that uh